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[matt6669]

Hey guys
The next mod up for the xj is to install a set of 4.88 (i think thats what im going to end up going with) and a set of aussie lockers. Supposedly the lockers arn't that hard but the gears are a pain in the BUTT!! i've heard some of you guys have done your own gears and lockers before if anyone would be interested in doing some side work and or teaching somebody a little information im very willing to pay.
let me know pm me and maybe we can work something out, or if you know someone that does it good and is reasonable pm me with a name.
Matt

thanks to anyone that offers

[dmxjg35]

4.88's are way to low you dont need to go over 4.56's unless your planning on going over 35's which i doubt your going to :lol: haha

[rockdawg]

If you ever want to start a good argument on a board (like JU or jeep forum) bring up a post about which gears and lockers to run. Since this is a friendly forum I'll give you my opinions. Feel free to disagree with me-just dont yell at me . :wink: Because I run on the highway all week and see 80mph a lot i run 4.56 w/ 35" tires. most guys run 4.88's and so would I if it wasnt for all the highway driving I do. Because of the tire size, the mileage i rack up and the fact that I'm not easy on my jeep I went with a detroit locker in the rear(dana 44). In the front(Dana 30) I have an aussie locker. The way I see it Its only under stress when i wheel it and I'll probably snap an axle u-joint long before i break the aussie. I know plenty of people who run aussie's and lockright lockers in the front and a couple of friends who run them in the back and not one failure yet. I usually run Yukon gears, I can get them online pretty inexpensively. No breakage there either-so far. If money was not a concern I would run a selectable locker like ARB's for obvious reasons. I think there was another thread on here about where to find a shop to get gears installed.
Matt- I pm'd you back on that.

[ROCKREADYXJ]

I would agree with that selectable lockers in the rear is where its at. I would not recomend the ARB. Not a big fan of there locker. the quality control is not that great. I sell alot of OX lockers and have had no complaints from them plus you get a heavy duty diff cover and do not need a $300 air compressor. If you drive this on the road I would not recomend 4.56 in a dana 35 pinion is way to small and it generates alot of heat which leads to premature bearing failure.

As far as gear installs if you have never done it I would not recomend you do it. there are specialty tools involved and it is a skill that comes with practice. Do it wrong and you waste a set of bearings and gears. then it cost you more money that if you took it to someone in the first place.

[Lagooz00xj]

yes gear installs are very tricky, and need to be done pretty much flawlessly or (as said before) you will ruin the gears and the bearings. I had the displeasure of putting a set of 4.30's and a full spool in a chrysler 8 3/4" rear end for a race car, and it was a PITA. We ended up dropping the rear off at a shop and letting them finish it because we were in over our heads.

[matt6669]

yeah i wouldn't mind running an ox but pulling a cable sounds kind of ghetto to me, i would much have the cleaner look with just a button to push like on the arbs

im probably going to go aussie front and rear and hope that the clicking doesn't drive me insane
al your probably right i should go with the 4.56's since i as well do a lot of highway mileage as well. that is something to definitely to consider since this truck will be my perminant winter dd and for the next year my dd all the time i need something that is going to function

gonna have to narrow down my choices because i wanna start ordering in some parts. hopefully jeepin outfitters will start to carry aussies

Matt

ps al i replied

[rockdawg]

Hey Matt, you can order aussie lockers online direct from them here: https://offroadlockers.com/

[sentinal02]

4.56's for 32" tires and a 6 cyl seems a bit steep as a DD. assuming you've got 3.07's now (not sure what ratios the XJ's come with stock, but i assume they're similar to the wranglers), you'd be looking at a 25% increase in your rpms over stock performance. say bye bye to your gas milage. granted, i know that's the price we pay for better control off road and I know you said you were planning on stepping up a couple tire sizes, but I'd wait until you get the tires in that case. lockers you can do any time, though obviously it's easier if you're regearing too. then again, there's no need to wait either if you're going aussie. you'll just have to transfer the locker over to the new carrier when you regear. a 4 to 1 low kit is also an option besides regearing if you're just looking for better control off road. also, the 4 cyl YJ's use 4.10's stock and a popular regearing trick for those with the 6 cyl is to pick up a set of complete axles from a 4 cyl for cheap and bolt them in. I know the XJ comes with the 2.5L (or did) so maybe you can use the same trick? cheaper than buying all new gears usually and you wouldn't need to pay a shop since you can just bolt in the new axles yourself and go. not sure if that's an option for you, but it's worth looking into. of course the down side is you're getting used axles that you may or may not know the history of, but if the price is right it might be worth it. just some ideas.

[ROCKREADYXJ]

yeah i wouldn't mind running an ox but pulling a cable sounds kind of ghetto to me, i would much have the cleaner look with just a button to push like on the arbs

ps al i replied


Come check out my OX lockers I will assure you that they are not getto.

[rsegriggy]

Isn't the aussie a lunchbox locker that only replaces the spider gears? If so, you can get them now, install them yourself and transfer them to your new carriers if you regear. If your'e regearing involves changing the carrier, I would definately look at getting a full case locker, and skipping the aussie in the interim.

Gears: I assume you have a 6 cylinder. If you have an overdrive tranny, then 4.10 would be a good setup with 33's, if you want decent highway mileage. I've got a buddy who went from 3.07 to 4.56 in his 6 cyl, 5 speed YJ with 33's, and now he's looking to go to 4.10.

ARB vs OX? It's like dana 44 vs AMC 20 or stick vs auto. They've got pluses and minuses, but in the end, they work the same.

[ROCKREADYXJ]

ARB vs OX? It's like dana 44 vs AMC 20 or stick vs auto. They've got pluses and minuses, but in the end, they work the same.

Yes and no

They are both selectaable lockers Even

The ARB uses an air collar to lock straight cut gears into the lock position. The ox uses a shift fork and a collar like in a manual transmission but when locked the gears are cut llike a dove tail that lock it in the locked position. the arb can slip if the torque overcomes the air pressure. Advantage OX all the way

Heavy duty diff cover comes with the OX not the ARB OX again

Extras needed to purchas w/ locker Ox a $80 cable about there. ARB air sorce or there$280 compressor. I would say OX again.

The OX cover is also equipt with a drain port on the bottom so you do not have to remove the cover.

Also the OX is made in the USA not down under.

I personally use them myself and have never had an issue with it yet. I have had no OX returns due to complications or problems but I have had broken ARBs come backand almost always its that air blatter collar they have.

Not looking to start a debate just my opinion from being in business. I like to pass this info on to others. You can still get any locker you want I sell both of them.but preffer one over the other.

[matt6669]

hey joe when i come to pick up my sye and ds you'll have to show me the ox locker. I want to see how yours are installed. Im picturing this cable and then you gotta pull out this tube type thing that pulls the cable to engage the locker, or is it more like say a shifter on a bicycle??
its an alternative, ill probably definitely go aussie in front tho

Matt

[XEON]

Go on google :google: and check them out. They are mad heaey duty and the cable is not small and the shifter is a beast compared so a bike shifter... Its really cool just start looking around.

[dmxjg35]

damn the ox shifter is huge, heres a pic of it as well as in install inside a cherokee http://www.jeepaholics.com/tech/oxshifter/ i must say the locker looks huge http://www.4wheelparts.com/4wp/products/productLine.asp?cat=DRI&prodline=2175&catName=Driv etrain&man=OXL

only thing i dont think i like about them is the cable is on the side of the diff cover, it seems like its easy to bash on a rock, but it is a very beffy cable so that might not be an issue, what does look like an issue is i dont see one for a 8.25 so i think your sol on that

[flippy71]

i guess this querry is gonna get some laughs but i have 4:10 gears front and back in my jeep. how does the scale work? orginal tires were 245-75-16 got 15mpg. got lift put on 33-12.50-15 and installed turbonator got exactly same. also took her up to 90mph and let off cause started to wonder how much the ticket would be. i really havent noticed any differance. dont really know squat this sort of thing :oops: :?