MAY 28TH TRIP TO THE PINES...(whos coming)

[wrangler]

Were going to the pines again. If you want to come post here. If you need directions pm me. There is a posibility that we would camp overnight on saterday and go wheeling again on sunday. :shrug:

When: May 28th 10:00 A.M.
Where: Atsion NJ; off on the left of 206 south, we will meet at the ranger station
Contact: ME...cody...codyrichter@gmail.com...or post here
Cost: It is free to wheel in the pines so basicaly it is 35 dollars cheeper then paragon. If we camp over night we may need to pay for camping.

Hope you all can come!! :D If you post "I probaly can make it" please post back when you kow for sure. Great place to wheel if ur a noobie bacause you can go around most of the hard stuff.

Thansk,
Cody

[flippy71]

holy sheep :!: batman i'm in. this is my back yard, just bought a bunch of camping equipment for a camping trip to michigan on 4th of july. i get to break it in. oh, yeah i'm in for camping :lol:

[njedgexj]

im in....anyone know of camping spots in that area?

[flippy71]

yea i know a spot back there, really nice place too. wife and i found it last weekend. i dont know the name but am taking a ride out there this weekend. it is a designated camping area with a old fashon lever pump for water. it is located buy the river, big open flat area. looks like there is about 60 camp sites and there are crapers there that work great :lol:

[XEON]

I am in for camping and wheeling. I got camping stuff. I got a propane grill and burner for cooking.

[XEON]

I am in for camping and wheeling. I got camping stuff. I got a propane grill and burner for cooking.

[flippy71]

that makes 4 of us, when i go out there i will get the gps location and way points and e-mail it to whoever is going

[XEON]

that makes 4 of us, when i go out there i will get the gps location and way points and e-mail it to whoever is going

Cool I got a Garmin GPS 60C. Send those and we will be set :)

[wrangler]

4 for sure!!! awsome...u guys all up for caming to?

[XEON]

Scott and I are camping. I dotn knwo about the others

[Flendo]

Scott and I are camping. I dotn knwo about the others
what day you gunna start camping?

[XEON]

Dont know yet. I will ask Scott tomarrow about that.

[wrangler]

I was thinking camp saterday night and wheel some more on sunday...but w/e...i would be down fro camping if some more of u want to camp.

[njedgexj]

i think wheel saturday...then camp sat night....then sunday we can do whatever....

[wrangler]

then sunday we can do whatever....Wheel some more!!!

[89sahara]

im goin, newb here

[wrangler]

im goin, newb heresaterday..sunday...or both?

[89sahara]

saturday :D

[flippy71]

ok that makes 6 or cant i count? we are in for camping. we are coming sat. it sounds like the rest are too. when i go tomorrow i stop at the ranger station and find out what the deal is about permits and what not. if they are there to get tomorrow i will grab a bunch, lets try to get a good count.

[wrangler]

no permits requiered for most of the trails...for camping...well thats another story..and someone else has to organize that part of the trip

[wrangler]

"flippy71"ok that makes 6 or cant i count? If u count flendo but he did not sound sure... i hope he goes...so far we got...Wrangler, Flippy71, njedgexj, xeon, Flendo(r u coming?), and 89sahara. What do u guys want to do for food when we camp...u want to have every one bring there own stuff or a group meal? xeon already said he has a propain stove, i do also. So what ever u guys want to do...we just prob want to figgure it out b4 we go. Also, does anyone know were we can camp?

[flippy71]

This the deal, I will orginse this trip. tomorrow my wife and i are going out to the pines. We are going to map out the route to the camping spot. everyone should like the spot it is a big open area with a dispersion of trees. the camping area looks to hold at least 50-60 campsites. it is on a bluff overloking a meandering stream. you could probably catch a fish or 2 if you have the magic touch. we have a bunch of camping stuff ourselves. food issue is the key. if everyone can agree on what to eat saturday night and sunday morning, it sound like almost everyone has a coleman stove, cooking should'nt be a problem. the ones who don't that ok, thats why we're a club we take care of our own. once we agree what we want to eat then we break it down to who's bringing what. I always open to suggestions if someone knows of a better way. this is an area that i have had a little experiance. used to take tourists in Michigan hunting,fishing,and camping in the backwoods. i will also go to the ranger station and find uot what we need to know and have. i dont know if i left any thing out, if i did please post it so we can adress the issue.

[flippy71]

if anybody else is gonna be out there tomorrow i will be running channel 12 just incase

[XEON]

I would say bring your own food for yourself and share if you want. I mean I always share my cooler and food to anyone that wants it. I wotn be packing much. Maybe hamburger or two and some bacon and eggs and beverages.

[wrangler]

but as of now we are still meeting 10 at the ranger station on saterday the 28th right...Thanks for orginizing flippy71

[89sahara]

about the meeting place? i pass by 206 a couple of times did not notice a ranger station. is that near the lake where you can go swimming? i take whitehorse pike and then make a left too 206, is the ranger station goin to be on my left or right?

[flippy71]

the ranger station is on your left, i'm guestamating that it ia 10-15 miles from hammonton. not sure i'll take an odometer reading and give you milage, when you are close you will see a lake on you left w/ metal guard rail, than derctly across is the atsion state park. hope this helps Rick

[wrangler]

but everones fine with 10 o clock right

[flippy71]

hey there fella's just got back from the pines what a great day. dust,mud,sunshineand more mud. this the deal about camping, 2 vechiles per site,$15 a site. i figure minimum 2 people $7 bucks a piece and we can have camp fire. the site looked great today, boyscouts were ther camping. once we get a definate count i will call it in. must be paid before to garantee spots or we can just wing it and show up. there also uneproved camp sites but i just figured it wuold be nice to have water for cooking or whatever and a throne to get rid of it :lol: any questions? please ask

[XEON]

Scott and I will take a slot I think. He is so hard to get in contact with... damn cell phone. Anyway sounds cool to me. One slot for sure so far.

[wrangler]

i'll take half a spot lol...10 o clock though right??? no one answered

[flippy71]

sold to the hairy guy in the second row :lol:

[wrangler]

10 o clock on saterday though right??? no one answered
!!!!! :ditto:

[flippy71]

yes sir

[XEON]

AM!?!?! Right? Just want to make sure :)

[flippy71]

10 am 10 am 10 am :mad: :P :lol:

[wrangler]

thanks lol...just wantedcto be sure

[XEON]

So 10am? haha :lol:

[89sahara]

10 am it is :!: might have to work that sat night :cry: im just goin to leave a little early

[XEON]

You dont have to work what are you talking about? Say you have explosive diarea.... :D :lol:

[Flendo]

wait....so what time are we meeting???????? ;)

[flippy71]

what are u talking about? working, plewy. Hey justin i think the explosive diahrea is a great excuse, just tell them would they like too be around you or worknig right next to u :shock: when you blow? :lol: :lol: DANGER,DANGER WILL EXPLODE AT ANY MOMENT,SAFETY GLASSES REQUIRED

[wrangler]

10 am 10 am 10 am :mad: :P :lol:

[89sahara]

who's bringing the hot chilli beans that day? :D

[wrangler]

wait....so what time are we meeting???????? ;)does that answer your question?

[XEON]

who's bringing the hot chilli beans that day? :D

I will surly have beans. I love BEANS! More you eat the more you fart the nexy day :)

[flippy71]

beans :D :o :shock: good thing there are crappers there!

[Flendo]

wait....so what time are we meeting???????? ;)does that answer your question?
it was a ....umm... a joke.....thats what the wink was for boyscout....

[Flendo]

who's bringing the hot chilli beans that day? :D

I will surly have beans. I love BEANS! More you eat the more you fart the nexy day :)
take it from a spanish dude like me.....beans make ya fart good!! so do protein shakes!!

[XEON]

who's bringing the hot chilli beans that day? :D

I will surly have beans. I love BEANS! More you eat the more you fart the nexy day :)
take it from a spanish dude like me.....beans make ya fart good!! so do protein shakes!!

I agree totally :) :lol:

[wrangler]

wait....so what time are we meeting???????? ;)does that answer your question?
it was a ....umm... a joke.....thats what the wink was for boyscout....lol..i see the wink when i use ie...but i was using firefox. si i did not see the wink lol

[flippy71]

everybody ready for paragon? i know we are.

[wrangler]

paragons to expensive...40 bucks for gas and 35 to enter!

[XEON]

everybody ready for paragon? i know we are.

I am ready :D.

[XEON]

paragons to expensive...40 bucks for gas and 35 to enter!

But its friggin awesome. And there are less worries at Paragon.

[wrangler]

less wories then what?...i put a mall dent in my oil pan last time..paragon it awsoem...but when your trying to go to europe this summer and trying to by a new laptop for skool, wheeling can take a back seat.

[XEON]

Less worries as in legal and safty. If you dont leave the park when they close they go looking. But yes when you dont have money then take the back seat. I know when gas prices hit $3 then I am done driving. Hopefully my job wont be too far away for my parents to give me a ride. Wheel maybe once a month tops.

[wrangler]

well, even though the pines arent as much fun, i think its safe enough as long as you go with a few rigs

[XEON]

well, even though the pines arent as much fun, i think its safe enough as long as you go with a few rigs

Oh yea we will have no issues. Scotts got OBA and tons of tools. I have tools and everyone I think has recovery crap. We wont have a winch I dont think unless badzook has his. But we will be good.

[badzook]

We wont have a winch I dont think unless badzook has his. But we will be good.


OK OK.....

You guys are killing me here....I'll take the plunge and say I'm in .....

I'll bring my winch and recovery gear and my sleeping bag...

There is no way the Zook would be ready by then so I'll do it in the J**p.

I'll set-up and lead a caravan from the north. I'll be traveling down route 206 all the way from Ross's Corner. Actually from 565 in Sussex... Any body that is interested just let me know ...Bring your Cb's and lots of tow straps we'll need 'em.. Everybody bring whatever recovery equipment you have.

10 am at the ranger station is fine with me. Just be advised that we will see alot of traffic on the way down and could be a bit late. This is like a 3.5 hour trip for me....

Check your rigs for waterproofing especially the diff's . Run those vent lines up high. I use clear vinyl tubing so I can see if thev've been contaminated.. There's lots of deep water down there and lotsa sand...

flippy71 would you work more with wrangler in setting up the details? It sounds like you're pretty familiar with this area. I haven't been there in a while and things tend to change...

We can exchange cell numbers by PM later...

I'm not interested in leading this event just trying to help and will bring up the rear and spot if you guys want me to.

I have GPS and Detailed topo maps of the area so we can get lost all you want ...

Any more input is welcomed..

badzook

[wrangler]

flippy71..did u decide on ware were gona camp? I just figgured we could fine some info on this when we get to the reanger station...but since you were there more recently then me you prob know more. I want to camp..but u said 2 rigs to a site(right?)...I would need a site mate lol

Thansk,
Cody

[XEON]

I am not goign in deep holes... I dont want to clean the diffs out like I had to last time... plus I have a nice fresh u-joint :). I dont go any deeper then my doors right now (Bottom of door :)). 8) This could be interesting if it is all just deep holes... I know its all sand I have been in that area with my dirtbike back when I first started. It will be fun either way :)

[XEON]

Hopefully the camp sites will all be in the same area. Do we have to reserve these slots? If so I know Scott and I will take one. Probally 3 slots by my count...

[badzook]

I am not goign in deep holes... I dont want to clean the diffs out like I had to last time... plus I have a nice fresh u-joint :). I dont go any deeper then my doors right now (Bottom of door :)). 8) This could be interesting if it is all just deep holes... I know its all sand I have been in that area with my dirtbike back when I first started. It will be fun either way :)

I'm with you xeon. I am NOT dunking my rig.. I use it everyday as a work vehicle and cannot afford to be without it. I guess you could say I won the dunking award on the last run I was on. There is tons of wheeling to do without "swimming" too. Lots of go arounds..

badzook 8) 8)

[flippy71]

hey there, ok the name of the camping area is called Hawkins Bridge campnig area. It has 50 camp sites. when we meet up at at the Atsion entrance we will travel through the park to the otherside. over to the ranger station at the batstoe. 10-15 minute ride,if you have been there you know what im talking about. we only have to fill out one form for the group. i already spoke to the rangers and we are good to go once i register our group. then all we have to do is basically is decide whos camping where. 1 site 2 vechiles, my and the wife are going up friday so we can set up our tent and stuff. if i can get a definate count on how many sites we need i will pay for it then you guys can pay me when you get there. i'm not rich so please dont screw me over :cry: and badzook i'll send you my #. PS we will also need a camp mate at our site also.

[XEON]

One for sure (Scott and I) I am sure atleast 2 more. We have wrangler, flendo, badzook and yourself flippy. Hope thats right.

[flippy71]

good start. figure 2 rigs per site, the amount of people is not an issue the ranger said. so i guess that means if wanted to we could stuff 20 people in each rig and unload like the seams on a fat chicks pants if we wanted :lol:

[wrangler]

not 100% sure if i'm gona camp...pretty sure...but dont count me in yet plz...might have to come home to be asisting minister at church

[flippy71]

thats ok, it will be a good time wheeling.

[XEON]

thats ok, it will be a good time wheeling.

CAMPING TOO!!!! :D I love camping, its always good times. I am sure we will have some good stories to share... I know Scotts got a ton.. hahaa

[flippy71]

oh ya, its gonna be good. I will try to remember some of my better jokes. i learned alot of em when iwas a grunt in the army. and no i wont clean them up for those of you with sensetive ears. :lol: :lol:

[wrangler]

maybe i'll chill wit u guys for a while...but i wont be camping over night

[wrangler]

no assisting minister...so i might camp over night...only prob is the kid i am goign with always does his home work on the week-ends...he said the only way he'll camp over night is if he can get power for his laptop....is there anysiteds wit power that we could pay extra 4?

[XEON]

We have power in our Jeeps... COme on I have air matresses I need a pump... :D

[wrangler]

110 ac? do u have to run ur engion to get power?

[XEON]

I have an inverter. Scott has one too. It runs off the battery I leave the motor running just in case :)

[wrangler]

well he is gona want to run his latop for a few hours...but i could rn it off mine and then one of u could just give me a jump if my batt goes dead

[flippy71]

sounds good the moer the merrier. talked to badzook he says he's probably comming too. hey xeon he told me to start another thread on the subject so i am. will lay it all out so anyone new to the thread gets the whole story. so far there is 9 that are going so if the plan stays the same we will need 5 sites, i will pre pay those friday night for sat. but any additional people will have to go to the ranger station and pay? sorry.

[wrangler]

i'm coming...definetly...and if not i'll pay you anyways..so reserve a site for me if u dont mind please.

[wrangler]

i'm coming...definetly...and if not i'll pay you anyways..so reserve a site for me if u dont mind please.

[wrangler]

sry to dobble post

[flippy71]

gotcha, you were included in the original 9 :D

[XEON]

Just got off the phone with Flippy and he said its going to cost $1 per person to go camping. So its going to be real dirt cheap to wheel and camp. I am goign to bring food and stuff for myself and I think everyone should get everything for themself and more to share if they want. It will make things easier and we wont have to make a huge list of what to get and whos paying for what. I am sure you know what I mean.

[wrangler]

1 buck a perosn...i thought each rig was 3.50...if that true..that is awsome! I cant wait....I hope one of u can give me a jump if i need cuz my bettery is not doing so good...and i'm gona run the altinator for my frinds laptops so he can do his "skool work".

[flippy71]

yes sir, camping is only a buck person and we dont have to worry about the vechile restriction either. my wife prepaid the the spot so we are good to go. hopefully it doesnt rain the whole time :( if so i will understand if people backout, as for me i've never been accused of playing with a full deck so i'll be there :lol: :wink:

[wrangler]

Rain or shine..my wrangler (and I) will be there...more rain more mud more fun!!!! I'm gonna change the differential fluid when I'm done and there should be no problem! Cant wait..see u all at the ranger station 10 am...I'm bringing basic tools...an inverter, some food, a stove misc camping gear...anything else...Does any one need to borrow camping gear...i might have an extra tent if needed. I hope someone is bringing tow straps cuz i don't have any. (and i'm sure i'll get stuck) Cant wait to see u guys there!

[flippy71]

got straps, thank for reminding me i need to check out my fluids too hit alot of water and mud at paragon. also have some squeekin going on have to figure where that is coming from :?

[XEON]

got straps, thank for reminding me i need to check out my fluids too hit alot of water and mud at paragon. also have some squeekin going on have to figure where that is coming from :?

Grease every fitting you have... I am not squeeking bad but I got a vib. I cleaned the Jeep today and hopefully that got the mud and rocks off the driveshaft and wheels and its all fixed... The weather sucks, I really want to pull the t-case apart and fix my speedo and fix my front yoke seal. ARG cant wait for a nice day...

[flippy71]

deffinately gotta do the grease, took my 2.5 hours to get the mud off :shock: i hpe paragon dosnt charge me for taking alot of there park home with me :lol:

[XEON]

deffinately gotta do the grease, took my 2.5 hours to get the mud off :shock: i hpe paragon dosnt charge me for taking alot of there park home with me :lol:

HAHA It took me an hour I just sprayed it down and wiped the body alittle. I have not cleaned my Jeep since I rebuilt it... Its got my greasy hand marks all over it. :lol: :lol:

[flippy71]

need bigger fender flares to keep mud on outside :lol:

[wrangler]

:google:

[wrangler]

Anyone want to ride up together from central jersey? I think my rig is reliable but i would like to convoy ust in case. I live in freehold righ off of rt 9. I take 537 to go to the pines to avoid the pike.

[XEON]

Oh to the ones who left early Saturday and Sunday morning... The three of us, (Rod, Scott, and I), we found some bitching trails. We got scotts jeep so far under that water was comming in. Then we saw a Ford Bronco sink it was a classic. Thats just the breif breif description... :D Pictures to come...

[flippy71]

ah shit! carnage :cry: i missed it. i wish wqe were'nt carrying so much stuff or we would have stayed for the morning ride. [note to self must get cargo carrier]. i just want to say thank you to everyone who showed up we had a really good time.

[njedgexj]

yeah i had a great time also....yeah this mornings ride was great....lol....as of this minute i have removed all my seats, carpet and trim.....tomorrow i will bed line the interior and put some drain holes it.....who needs carpet anyway??....i love jeepin....

[badzook]

Yup
We had a blast too. We really found some nice wet trails today, they were a real challenge.. I can't believe the capabilities of our rigs.. I had water ( swampy & muddy) roll up over top of my hood twice...

.I'm working on the pics right now..

John said he would like to bring his rig down there.. He has a really nice S-10 that is a real beast.

badzook

[XEON]

Heres the pictures I took, Dont have much but I have a few goodies.
http://www.tri-state4x4.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=42

[sentinal02]

So which one of you guys gets the honarary "Muskrat Award" for this weekend? :lol:

[badzook]

And here's some of the pics that I have . We all had a blast .. There are more to come so stay tuned.....

http://www.tri-state4x4.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=43

badzook

[badzook]

Sentinal 02

How did your ride go today?? Any success??


badzook 8)

[XEON]

Rod,

Can you email me your pictures and John's when he sends them to you. I want to put them in the main album I created.

[sentinal02]

Sentinal 02

How did your ride go today?? Any success??


badzook 8)

Not bad, I did find a few more SM roads, but nothing 2wd couldn't handle. i was thinking though that a lot of these roads would make some great winter wheeling once we get some snow up here. they're still ok for a scenic day trip/BBQ/meet and greet deal, but so far I haven't come across anything challanging. Add some snow though and Moore hill will turn into a nice play trail, and the connection between it and Denman Mt would make for one wicked hill climb. Just gotta set it up after the first 1 or 2 big storms so we don't have to break through those 4 ft snow banks. :lol: I didn't get a chance to check out Spencer though, after i decided to check out Slide mt. in case it proved accessible. check out the summary here:

http://www.tri-state4x4.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5461#5461

[Lagooz00xj]

wheres the rest of the pics from this weekend :?: I know theres more, John who was riding shotgun with badzook had a few that i dont see in the gallery, and i know wrangler and flippy both had cameras. Lets see those pics :D

[XEON]

They have not sent them to me :(. FLippy is mailing a cd full of pictures I will have those soon. As for John he said he will email them to Rod then to me. We will see in a few days :D

[badzook]

yeah i had a great time also....yeah this mornings ride was great....lol....as of this minute i have removed all my seats, carpet and trim.....tomorrow i will bed line the interior and put some drain holes it.....who needs carpet anyway??....i love jeepin....


You Know... I was thinking today.... You might want to pull your diff covers and check Trans T/c etc.. I would check all of your fliuds for contamination.. You were in pretty deep for awhile...

badzook 8) 8)

[Lagooz00xj]

I just got finished doing my diffs partly because of this weekend, partly because it had never been done in 89k, and partly because i wanted to go synthetic. No contamination whatsoever in both my axles. I was pleasantly surprised. :D

[badzook]

I wouldn't use Synthetics.. It causes all of the seals to start leaking and if you run a locker or LSD It'll cause serious problems.. Just thought you should know.. Lots of vendors will void your warranty if you use it... I would rather change the Gear Oil more often. It gives me a chance to keep an eye on it too..

badzook 8)

[XEON]

Yea dont waste your money on Sythacrap its really only good on nice expensive motors and cars. I put it in my Jeep and it started leaking like hell. I will only put the cheapest stuff in it for now on. Its not worth the money and at the rate I am changing my fluids I will be hopefully saving money. Get 80 weight gear oil for the diffs. Hope this helps!

[njedgexj]

yeah i had a great time also....yeah this mornings ride was great....lol....as of this minute i have removed all my seats, carpet and trim.....tomorrow i will bed line the interior and put some drain holes it.....who needs carpet anyway??....i love jeepin....


You Know... I was thinking today.... You might want to pull your diff covers and check Trans T/c etc.. I would check all of your fliuds for contamination.. You were in pretty deep for awhile...

badzook 8) 8)
yup i changed my front and rear diff fluids...and i checked the trans and t-case...they where ok...but im gonna change them this weekend anyway since im sure they have never been done...

[Lagooz00xj]

yea i couldnt go synthetic, allpoints auto onyl had conventioanl valvoline80w-90 and i wasnt gonna drive elsewhere so i just got that.