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GreenMachine
02-05-2007, 06:43 PM
so yesterday I went wheeling at paragon for the last time, but hopefully not the last time. regardless, the jeep ran well and everything was good.
this morning I hop in the jeep to go to work and when I put it into gear and let off the clutch I heard a pop sound come from the rear axle. I quickly stopped, checked everything, but didn't see anything. I hopped back in put it back into gear and slowly rolled forward and it was fine. after work it did the same thing, but was fine after that. after going to the gym it did it a third time. this time I let off the clutch super slow and it feels as though the rear axle is binding. if I let go on the clutch enough it makes a loud pop and is fine. obviously it's not fine if it makes a loud popping noise and seems to be binding.
anyone want to venture a guess as to what is wrong?
if it's my gears that are messed up I am going to need professional assistance. I'm not messing with this one on my own. that and I don't have all the necessary tools. and it's too damn cold outside to be messing with it without a garage!
Does it happen after the Jeep has been sitting, or every time you stop? I know on my Cherokee and Wrangler in the winter the rear drums would freeze. So it would bang when it disengaged. That was only if I had the e-brake on while parked. Hopefully its something stupid like that!
GreenMachine
02-05-2007, 07:20 PM
it happens ONLY after the jeep has sat for a little while. not to mention that it is FREEZING up here! Hopefully that is all it is. maybe I have a little mud/ice stuck in there from yesterday still.
I sure hope so too. You would think if it was really bad issue, it would happen all the time. Keep us updated, maybe someone else has a better idea. :spinrhead
jfrdog
02-05-2007, 07:31 PM
it happens ONLY after the jeep has sat for a little while. not to mention that it is FREEZING up here! Hopefully that is all it is. maybe I have a little mud/ice stuck in there from yesterday still.
I could barely get my clutch to work the first time I started it this morning so hopeful your prob. is just the ice. (It was below 20deg. today that might also be part of it) Good luck with it :wtg:
GreenMachine
02-05-2007, 07:47 PM
I hope so. I had to jump the jeep this morning on top of having the other problems because the cold killed my battery. I've known the battery is dying but I keep putting it off. I suppose I should get a new one some time this week.
SleepRob89
02-05-2007, 08:29 PM
could it possible be a u joint on its way out???
GreenMachine
02-05-2007, 09:22 PM
I don't think so for the simple fact that it feels like the wheels won't turn until it pops. almost like the brake is still on.
I don't think so for the simple fact that it feels like the wheels won't turn until it pops. almost like the brake is still on.
I am willing to bet, if you take the e-brake off and let it sit. You wont have the issue. When it was really cold after a snow, it would take me a minute or two to even move my Cherokee! One wheel would pop and I would have to bump forward and reverse to get the other wheel loose. Good luck, let us know.
NJ Rubi
02-05-2007, 10:30 PM
three thoughts and one suggestion...
Im agreeing with above that maybe you got ome moisture in there thats freezing up or,
maybe you got some water in the diff that is freezing up. I reallly dont think its either though.
Do you have a posi or limited slip in your jeep? They tend to act funny when first starting in the cold.
Suggestion to all... The great part about all Jeeps with a manual t-case is that we can warm it up in the morning. Try this tomorrow, Start your Jeep, put the T-CASE in Nuetral (manually), then put the TRANS in any gear, and take your foot off of the clutch (dont worry you WILL NOT move), this will spin the tranny and get the juices flowing in both the t-case, tranny as well as the engine. When you are ready to go, take the trans out of gear, slide the t-case back into 2HI, and you are off. The trans will be warm now, and you wont have any cold starts or shifts. Just an FYI Good Luck
shrapnel1980
02-06-2007, 11:37 AM
I could barely get my clutch to work the first time I started it this morning so hopeful your prob. is just the ice. (It was below 20deg. today that might also be part of it) Good luck with it :wtg:
my clutch dosnt like to go into gear when it is cold out. almost tries to spit it back out of gear
GreenMachine
02-06-2007, 06:01 PM
well I took the e-brake off last night and simply left the jeep in gear. this morning no popping. after work no popping.
the only problem I had was yet another dead battery. the damn battery is nine years old and on its last leg. this evening I bought a new battery. unfortunately not an optima battery because I can't afford $150 at the moment, but a decent battery nonetheless.
as for shifting, I can never get my jeep into 2nd on super cold mornings. I have to wait until it warms up a bit and it's good to go. I'm going to try that tranny warming bit that was suggested and see how that goes.
regardless, I think it was moisture in the drums. hopefully that's all it was. thus far no problems today as previously mentioned!
NJ Rubi
02-06-2007, 06:56 PM
as for shifting, I can never get my jeep into 2nd on super cold mornings. I have to wait until it warms up a bit and it's good to go. I'm going to try that tranny warming bit that was suggested and see how that goes.
Works like a charm, been doing it in all of my manual t-case vehicles for years.
Good deal! Good to hear its just frozen drums! As for shifting cold, I couldnt get my truck started this morning! The diesel geled, I had to put in PS 9-1-1 let it sit while at work, and it started up after a few cranks when I got home. Talk about a cold morning!
88sub4x4
02-07-2007, 01:30 AM
Good deal! Good to hear its just frozen drums! As for shifting cold, I couldnt get my truck started this morning! The diesel geled, I had to put in PS 9-1-1 let it sit while at work, and it started up after a few cranks when I got home. Talk about a cold morning!
And you wonder why I like gassers....:bdance: :bdance: :bdance: :bdance: :bdance: :bdance: :bdance: :bdance: :bdance: :bdance: :bdance: :bdance:
Now seriously Justin, Add a gallon of kerosene to 20 gals. of diesel fuel and it will help it from gelling. You can also use Marvel Mystery oil, but that is alot more $$.
Or, if you are able to find some, run #1 diesel whenever the temps. are below 20*.
shrapnel1980
02-07-2007, 09:21 AM
Works like a charm, been doing it in all of my manual t-case vehicles for years.
I did that this morning and no prob. at all shifting. worked really well gonna start doing that on cold mornings thanks for the tip!!
ROCKREADYXJ
02-07-2007, 02:00 PM
A broken or worn spider gears have the same symptoms you described.
GreenMachine
02-07-2007, 09:50 PM
A broken or worn spider gears have the same symptoms you described.
that is what I was afraid of at first, but it seems to have cleared up. hopefully it was just a little moisture. if not, you'll be hearing from me for help!
And you wonder why I like gassers....:bdance: :bdance: :bdance: :bdance: :bdance: :bdance: :bdance: :bdance: :bdance: :bdance: :bdance: :bdance:
Now seriously Justin, Add a gallon of kerosene to 20 gals. of diesel fuel and it will help it from gelling. You can also use Marvel Mystery oil, but that is alot more $$.
Or, if you are able to find some, run #1 diesel whenever the temps. are below 20*. Thanks. I didnt think it would stay this cold, so long. Thats why I hesitated to buy the white Power Service, I use grey in every other tank when its warm. Shes running great now, next tank gets some white Power Services. :ntopic:
ROCKREADYXJ
02-08-2007, 07:18 AM
Thanks. I didnt think it would stay this cold, so long. Thats why I hesitated to buy the white Power Service, I use grey in every other tank when its warm. Shes running great now, next tank gets some white Power Services. :ntopic:
J starting in November and through to March I always run the white and the rest of the year the gray and a little 2 stroke. never had a day in 5 years my truck didn't start. I almost never plug it in.
ROCKREADYXJ
02-08-2007, 07:19 AM
that is what I was afraid of at first, but it seems to have cleared up. hopefully it was just a little moisture. if not, you'll be hearing from me for help!
If you want to check it out one day let me know I can take a look and change the fluid at the same time.
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